There is a Paper Mill in Canton, NC on the Pigeon River and there is also one south of Knoxville, TN on I-75 close to Cleveland, TN but I cannot recall the name of the town. Allen Cain You did a great job compiling this list. In seeing it in total, I realized that I forgot a major industry when I first gave you my input. Here are some to add to your vast database: North Carolina: Furniture, paper, pulpwood, aluminum (alumina, coke, tar, ingots), seafood, peaches Tennessee: Aluminum (alumina, coke, tar, ingots), Jack Daniels (Oak barrels and other fine ingredients) Sorry that I left these off of my original list to you. Perhaps you would be so kind as to let folks send in the extra input and then republish the list? Allen Cain Sam, we have 2,4, and 8 in the Augusta, GA area plus a lot of Kaolin Clay, which you did not mention. That is a major business down here, along with rock quarries. OK, the brick plant gets boxcars being loaded out. CNC and the other chemical plants get tank cars, both incoming but mostly loads out. The Kaolin clay plants, depending on the type of plant, gets LC's for loading and also unloading, LO's for loads out, and tanks for loads out. They do some shipping in boxcars also, and at least one plant loads containers on flat cars. The paper mills get chip hoppers in and some pole cars, but most of the pulpwood and logs arrive by truck. They ship paper out in boxcars. The Chlorine plant gets LO's in and tank cars out. PQX ships both covered hoppers (LO's) and tank cars, and receive the same. Olin Matheson gets a lot of hoppers (LO's) but I do not know if they are loads in or out. The power plant gets coal loads in empties out, obviously. Jack Parker > 5. Electric Generation power plants > 8. Agricultural products US Sugar has a big commitment to rail. They have mills all around Lake Okeechobee in Florida. They also had a deal, that has soured, to generate electricity using the waste product from the sugar refineries. Rail is/was used to transport this to the the mills with the generating equipment. I have a small Photopoint album showing photos of USSC's Bryant Mill here USSC operates the South Central Florida Express. The SCFE operates on the FEC's K-Branch on the east side of the Lake Okeechobee and on old ACL, SCL, CSX track on the west side. For more information see US Sugar's web page here Also in Belle Glade, FL there is a fertilizer distributor that uses rail to receive its product. I have a larger album about it here -- Tom Byrne > > 3. Steel mill > Nucor has just started up a new one in NE NC. I don't know any details > about rail traffic. They get scrap metal through Morehead City port via > barge. At Tunis, NC...scrap metal in, steel plate out from what I've seen. > > 5. Electric Generation power plants > There is a coal plant in Goldsboro and a nuclear plant in Southport NS delivers coal to the Goldsboro plant in unit trains, typically train #852 Craig Zeni > 1. Petroleum Refinery > 2. Chlorine plant There was a captive chlor/alkali plant in Rigelwood that was recently closed as being one of the biggest mercury polluters in the nation. > 3. Steel mill Nucor has just started up a new one in NE NC. I don't know any details about rail traffic. They get scrap metal through Morehead City port via barge. > 4. Paper mill Weyerhauser has a mill in New Bern. Fereral paper has a large mill in Rigelwood. > 5. Electric Generation power plants There is a coal plant in Goldsboro and a nuclear plant in Southport > 6. Ship docks Morehead City port shipped coal until about 1990, then shifted to wood chips. They recieved jet fuel until the mid '90's for DOD. Lots of old, silver domed tank cars went by going to the several NC air bases. They also ship loads of frozen chickens to Europe (Russia) and import rubber (which likely goes to Kelly Tire in Fayetteville and Firestone around Wilson / Rocky Mount). > 7. Building material producers > 8. Agricultural products > 9. Any Industries specific to your state on a seasonal basis In the days of the old NS, they used to ship fish and seafood west on the "Old Mullet Road", the A&ENC. > Clay Dulaney > All the below industries are located west of Atlanta, Ga.on the Norfolk > Southern. > > > 1. Petroleum Refinery > We have one of these in Douglasville, Ga.. It receives empty tank cars and > sends them out full of hot tar. There are about 10 to 12 cars on the siding > at all times. > > 6. Ship docks > Savannah!!!! Big sea port, lots of container traffic. > I was reminded by this post that Morehead City imports and ships railcars full of asphalt. > > 7. Building material producers > There is a big brick maker on the northwest side of Atlanta near the power > plant, I mention above. > Owens Corning (now Turnbull) has an asphalt shingle plant at the port. I se lots of trucks of roofing tar "kegs" going by, don't know about rail shipments of shingles. > Mike Gilmore There is a great list of industries on Ry-ops-industrialSIG by region and state, with the industry described along with the RR served and items shipped / received. They have a list of industries in the file section with 18,600 industries listed. The bad news is you have to be a member. Go to Ry-ops-sig on Yahoo to become a member. Clay Dulaney Our database(Ry-ops-industrialSIG) is available to interested users by posting on the OpSig Ops-Ind egroup site. Because of size, it is divided into 9 regions in 6 files: NE+CD - ME NH VT MA CT RI plus CD - Canada OF - (Official Territory) NY NJ PA DE MD OH IN IL MI SE - VA NC SC GA FL AL MS KY TN WV NC+NW - WI MN ND SD NE IA plus NW - WA OR ID MT WY AK SC+MX - MO AR LA TX OK KS plus MX - Mexico SW - CO NM UT AZ NV CA We welcome corrections and additions, especially industries on other operating model railroads. Note that this is only an exchange of information and we are not planning or offering any physical exchange of cars. I look forward to hearing from you. BillJewett@aol.com Operations SIG Following are some industries located in Memphis. > 1. Petroleum Refinery Mapco refinery - in SW Memphis, switched by the IC. LP tank cars (loads in? Or, out?) Molten sulphur (loads out) > 8. Agricultural products President's island has large Midsouth Milling and Cargill plants. Covered hoppers (corn and soy bean loads in) Tank cars (vegetable oil and corn sweetener loads out) > 9. Any Industries specific to your state on a seasonal basis Coors Brewery - their only brewery outside Golden CO. They brew Zima and other Coors branded products, and bottle/can Coors branded for military and export sales. Insulated tank cars (concentrated beer loads in) These are white CORX tank cars with large boxes around the dome area. Insulated box cars (bottled beer in) Typically the 62' PCF beer cars (Eel River Models in HO). Frank Greene You should include iron and steel among the Alabama industries. In the 50s it was still the backbone of the Birmingham economy. The steel mills and blast furnaces were served by L&N, Southern and Frisco. Also Birmingham Southern served the TCI (later US Steel later USX) mills and ore and coal mines. ACL served one ore mine near Bessemer. L&N, Southern and Frisco served many coal mines. There were also the railroads of Woodward Iron Co.and Sloss Sheffield Steel Iron and Railroad Co. that served company owned iron and coal mines. Sloss used L&N trackage until just recently to reach some of their mines.There were also Byproducts Plants and Coke works that received coal and shipped coke, tar and other byproducts of the coking operations. Best I recall these were served by Birmingham Southern, L&N, Southern, Frisco and the Woodward Iron co RR. Nearly all the plants had in plant RR for switching around the works. Fred Mobley I forgot the steel mill in Gadsden AL which only recently closed. It was served by L&N and Southern. There is/was a large cast iron pipe industry in around Birmingham. The ACIPO (American Cast Iron Pipe CO) is served by L&N (CSX), Southern (NS) and Birmingham Belt still has inactive trackage to the works. Birmingham Belt was owned by Frisco. The US Pipe plants (later Jim Walters Industries not sure who owns it now) in Birmingham and Bessemer were/are served by L&N (CSX) and Southern (NS). There were once several pipe shops and foundries in Anniston served by L&N and Southern. Stockham Valve (now defunct) was once one of the largest makers of cast iron valves in US. It was served by L&N. Fred Mobley Perhaps I should have been more specific from the start. There are 2 paper mills reasonably close; one in Courtland, AL and the other just outside of Iuka, MS. There are 2 fertilizer plants in the area; one, IMCC, brings in MAP and ammonia and perhaps potash as raw materials (I don't know the grades they make, but there are covered hoppers from all over: SOO, BN, ATSF, IMC, CSX, and others as well as ammonia and sometimes H3PO4 tank cars). The other plant I am not familiar with, but would assume that it operates in much the same way. It may even produce ammonia, I am not sure. There is one chlorine ( and maybe other products) plant that a club member is modeling (somewhat compressed). He is knowledgable about that plant since he worked there. There are several power producing plants in the area, all operated by Tennessee Valley Authority ( a federal outfit). There is 1 nuclear plant, 2 hydro plants, and 1 fossil fuel plant, all within a 100 mile radius. And there is a considerable amount of barge traffic on the Tennessee River here. During the 1970's the L&N brought coal into Florence, AL. It was loaded onto barges there and from there to power plants--I am not sure right now where the coal went. There is a former Reynolds Metals plant here, still doing what Reynolds used to do: make aluminum. I think the y still make wire and rod, and still operate a can plant where they make drink cans. A few years ago the can stock was carried from the main plant to the can plant across town in Southern all-door boxcars!! Hope this has been some help. Are you going to want pictures or something??? George Walker All the below industries are located west of Atlanta, Ga.on the Norfolk Southern. > 1. Petroleum Refinery We have one of these in Douglasville, Ga.. It receives empty tank cars and sends them out full of hot tar. There are about 10 to 12 cars on the siding at all times. > 3. Steel mill There was one in downtown Atlanta until about 10 to 15 years ago. It was next door to the Amtrak station. Gone now. > 5. Electric Generation power plants We have a few of these around. Plant Yates just south of Carrollton, Ga.. Also, there is one just northwest of downtown Atlanta. There are a couple more on the southwest side of Ga. Not sure of the locations. There is also a power plant in southeast Alabama, I believe it is in Wilsonville. It is serve by rail, I know for a fact! Two weeks ago, I sat at a crossing for 20 minutes waiting for a unit train to clear. > 6. Ship docks Savannah!!!! Big sea port, lots of container traffic. > 7. Building material producers There is a big brick maker on the northwest side of Atlanta near the power plant, I mention above. That's all for now! Mike Gilmore NS also delivers coal to Belews Creek Power Plant on the Winston-Salem district (also called the Punkin Vine) as well. I think that might be near Walnut Cove or somewhere in the vincinity anyway. Pretty neat little operation. They have to use pushers due to the "hill and dale" profile of the line. > > > 5. Electric Generation power plants > > There is a coal plant in Goldsboro and a nuclear plant in Southport > > >>NS delivers coal to the Goldsboro plant in unit trains, typically train > #852<< Richard Matthews Florida Steel had/has a plant in Indiantown, Florida on the CSX (old SAL) that used an electric furnace to convert scrap steel into rebar for the construction industry. (Electric as it was just down the road from a nuke electric plant). It was a rather un-assuming plant with lots of gons loaded with scrap steel. I believe most of the finished product was trucked out to Florida construction sites. Robert L. Harris Florida Steel is now AmeriSteel Corp. They have steel mills in Indiantown, Fl, Tampa, Knoxville, and maybe other locations. (Tampa may be closed now???) After the rebar is rolled it is shipped out to their fabrication plants via truck or rail in gons. The fabrication plants are located in FL, GA, TN, KY, WV, VA, NC, SC, and I think they have purchased additional fab plants in the NE.. The rebar is fabricated at these plants and then shipped via truck to the construction job sites. I used to work for them when they were Fla Steel. And now they are my main customer!!!!! Ron Jones You can add cotton to Georgia. My father worked for a cotton broker in LaGrange, GA called Allenberg Cotton Co. (Their home office was in Memphis). I worked there also in the summers and after school. Cotton bales were shipped in from the gins to the warehouse and then sold and shipped out to the cotton mills in Georgia and Alabama. THe warehouse was located on the Atlantic Coast Line's LaGrange yard. The names of the mills are numerous, but if you like I can come up with a few and their locations. Ron Jones For Alabama: You failed to mention that Birmingham was the center of the steel industry in the south. While there are still a few steel mills here, it remains the largest producer of iron water pipe in the world. In the 50's there was U.S. Steel (T.C.I.), Republic Steel, Connors Steel, Woodward Iron Co., Sloss, U.S. Pipe, McWane Pipe, American Cast Iron Pipe, ABC Coke. Railroads included Sou, L&N, ACL, SAL, Frisco, GM&O, IC, BS, Woodward. Loads would include scrap iron, coke, coal, iron ore, limestone, sand, sinter, flat rolled plate, hot bands, blooms, structural, pipe and chemicals from the coke works. Ore, coal and limestone from local mines and quarries didn't have to travel far to get to the furnaces, but there was some importing of ore and coke as well. Regards, Steve Davis Here is a list of some major industries that were located in Mississippi and approximate dates and railroads that served them. It is by no means a complete list, but a good starting point. If anyone is interested, I can also list all of the major sawmills that were located in the state between 1880 and 1950, when lumbering was the most important industry in Mississippi. I am also listing a few major industries in surrounding states. Shipyards: Ingalls Shipbuilding, Pascagoula, 1940-present, MSE, L&N Higgins Shipbuilding, Higgins, LA (East New Orleans), app 1940-??, L&N ??? Shipbuilding, Pinto Island, AL (Mobile), before 1944-??, AT&N or L&N? Paper Mills: Southern Paper Co., Kreole, MS (Moss Point), 1912-c1925, PMP&N-MSE, L&N International Paper Co., Kreole, MS (Moss Point), c1925-2001, MSE, L&N International Paper Co., Chickasaw, AL (Mobile), ??-present, AT&N, SOU, TRASD Gulf States Paper Co., Tuscaloosa, AL, before 1940-present, GM&O, L&N, SOU Gaylord Container Corp. to Crown-Zellerbach Corp., Bogalusa, LA, c1928-present, GM&N-GM&O St. Regis Paper Co., Ferguson, MS (near Wanilla), c1968-present, ICG Marathon Southern Paper Co. to james River Paper Co., Naheola (Myrtlewood), AL, 1958-present, M&B International Paper Co., Natchez, MS, 1940's?-present, N&S, IC, MSC Tennessee River Pulp & Paper Co., Counce, TN, 1958-present, Corinth & Counce RR ?? Paper Co., SW of Columbus, MS, 1970's??-present, Golden Triangle RR Leaf River Paper Co., Augusta, MS, 1980's?-present, Old Augusta RR ?? Paper Co., Redwood, MS, 1960's-present, IC Other wood related industries: Masonite Corp., Laurel, MS, c1928-present, GM&N-GM&O, SOU Georgia Pacific, Gloster, MS, ??-present, ICG-GS Georgia Pacific, Taylorsville, MS, 1960's?-present, IC Flintkote Corp., Meridian, MS, c.1948-??, GM&O, IC, SOU Hercules Powder Corp., Hattiesburg, MS, 1920-present, IC, MSC Hercules Powder Corp., Gulfport, MS, 1920-1926, G&SI-IC Fernwood Box Co., Fernwood, MS, 1930's-1980's??, FC&G Georgia Pacific, Wiggins, MS, 1960's??-present, IC Georgia Pacific, Louisville, MS, purchased from D.L. Fair Lbr. Co. 1960's??-present, GM&O Weyerhauser, Deweese, MS (S. Philadelphia), purchased from DeWeese Lbr. Co. 1960's?-present, GM&O Sawmills: Crosby Lbr. & Mfg. Co., Crosby, MS, 1935-1963, IC Crosby Forest Products, Picayune, MS, c1942-1960's?, PRV E.L. Bruce Lbr. Co. (later Bruce Hardwood Co.?), Bruce, MS, 1928-present, M&SV Chicago Mill & Lbr. Co., Greenville, MS, c1928-1970's or 80's, C&G Anderson-Tully, Vicksburg, MS, 1920's-present?, IC Wiggins Lbr. Co., N. Wiggins, MS, c1950's-present, IC Creosote Plants: L&NRR, Gautier, MS, 1873-late 1970's??, L&N ICRR, Tie Plant, MS, ??-??, IC Gulf States Creosoting Co., Hattiesburg, MS, 1920's-1950's??, SOU Gulf States Creosoting Co., Meridian, MS, 1920's-early 1980's?, SOU, IC, GM&O Gulf States Creosoting Co., N. Gulfport, MS, 1920's-early 1980's?, IC T.J. Moss Tie Co., Columbus, MS, 1928-present, C&G, SOU, SLSF Louisville Tie Co., Louisville, MS, 1910-present (changed names over the years), GM&N-GM&O Gulf States Creosoting Co., Flowood, MS, dates unknown, maybe 1930's-1970's, IC, GM&O Furniture plants: Pontotoc, Houston, N. Tupelo, all on GM&O Textile plants: Stonewall, MS c1860's-present, M&O-GM&O Laurel, MS c.1900-??, G&SI-IC, SOU McComb, MS early 1900's-??, IC Corinth, MS early 1900's-1970's, GM&O Columbia, MS early 1900's-1970's??, IC Meridian, MS late 1800's-??, M&O-GM&O, IC, SOU Gravel Pits: Columbus Gravel Co., Columbus, MS, 1920's-??, GM&O, C&G, SOU Green Bros. Gravel Co., Georgetown, MS, 1940's?-1970's?, GM&O Fleming Gravel Co., Columbus, MS, 1930's-??, SLSF? Amory Sand & Gravel Co., Amory, MS, 1920's-??, SLSF Bigbee Sand & Gravel Co., Bigbee, MS, 1920's?-??, SLSF ??, N. Hattiesburg, MS, 1880's-1990's, NO&NE-SOU Traxler Gravel Co., Crystal Springs, MS, ??-1960's?, IC Brookhaven Gravel Co., Crystal Springs, MS, IC Gatesville Gravel Co., Gatesville, MS, before 1938-1960's?, GM&O Richton Investment Co., Richton, MS, c1920-1970's?, GM&O Other large pits at: Clifton, Franklinton, and Amite, La., also Columbus, Kolola Springs, Brookhaven, Hopewell, N. Magee, Saratoga, Carmichael, and Morton,MS Brick factories: Louisville Brick Co., Louisville, MS, 1920's-present, GM&O ??, S. Macon, MS, 1950's-present?, GM&O St. Joe Brick Co., St. Joe, La. (NE Slidell), ??-present, SOU Corinth Brick Co., Corinth, MS, 1920's-1970's, SOU Cottonseed Oil Mills: Buckeye Cotton Oil Co., Corinth, MS, 1920's?-1980's, GM&O Eagle Cotton Oil Co., Meridian, MS, 1920's?-1960's?, GM&O, SOU also cottonseed oil mills at Magnolia, West Point, Newton, Tupelo, Yazoo City, Jackson, Vicksburg, Marks, MS. I'm sure that there were many in the Delta. Cotton Compresses: Almost every town north of Meridian-Vicksburg line with population over 2000 had a cotton compress and cotton gins. Most compresses were owned by the Federal Compress Co. Some towns I know of with a Federal Compress include: Corinth, Tupelo, Okolona, Aberdeen, Columbus, West Point, Macon, Meridian, Hattiesburg, Gulfport, Columbia (I think), Brookhaven (I think), Hazlehurst, Jackson, Kosciusko, Canton, Grenada, Holly Springs, New Albany, Pontotoc, Houston, Louisville, Greenwood, Indianola, Greenville, Lambert, and Clarksdale, MS. Pulpwood yards: Like cotton gins in the north part of the state, almost every town south of a Meridian-Vicksburg line had a pulpwood yard, or loaded pulpwood on a team track near the depot. Some company owned loading spurs were located at: Westvaco Co. 1970's and after: Ripley, S. Booneville, Dennis ?? Co.- N. Buckatunna, MS, 1948-1980's? Bentonite pits (type of clay): Fulton-Amory area, and Morton, MS Other misc industries: Goodyear Tire Co., Natchez, MS, 1940's-present?, IC (I think) ?? Cement Co., N. Crawford, MS, 1950's??-present, GM&O Knox Glass Co., Flowood, MS, 1930's-1970's??, GM&O, IC Dorgan-McPhillips Packing Co. (vegetables), Columbia, MS, 1930's-1970's?, IC Standard Brands (pickle plant), Wiggins, MS, c.1928-c.1980, IC Standard Oil Co., later Chevron, refinery, Bayou Casotte, MS (Pascagoula), c.1958-present, L&N Mississippi Chemical Co., fertilizer plant, Bayou Casotte, MS (Pascagoula), 1958-??, L&N Mississippi Power Co. Plant Daniels (power plant), Escatawpa, MS, c.1978-present, MSE Mississippi Power Co. (???), (power plant), Purvis, MS, 1970's?-present, SOU ?? Oil Co., Dragon, MS (N. Hattiesburg), oil storage facility, 1960's?-present, SOU Mississippi Chemical Corp. (fertilizer plant?), N. Yazoo City, 1950's?-present, IC As you can see, I have a lot of question marks and gaps to fill in. Additions and corrections are welcome! Tony Howe << 4. Paper mill >> Several of these come to mind here in Virginia Hosam. There is the one at West Point on the NS (former Southern), the one at Covington on CSX (C&O), and another close to me at BIg Island on CSX (C&O). All are still served by rail. 5. Electric Generation power plants I'm sure there are plenty of these. The Hyco plant south of South Boston comes to mind. It's on NS, (N&W former L&D), and one I'm familiar with at Conway, SC. Both still receive coal by rail. 6. Ship docks Anywhere in the Norfolk are...You're familiar weith those though. 8. Agricultural products 9. Any Industries specific to your state on a seasonal basis There is/was an Apple storage facility at Covesville, VA (right along Rt 29). I'm using it as a small industry on my layout, although I have not been able to research it yet. It is right by the tracks, and must have had a siding. It's called Piedmont Brand Apples. If you do find out any more about it I'd love to know more. Pulpwood is another southeast one of course, I believe the pulpwood yard in Altavista is still going strong. I think it was on the old Virginian line (N&W). Also, there was, perhaps still is one at the east end of Gladstone (Bent Creek) on CSX (C&O). In the 50's it seemed every depot had a "pupwood" loading facility. We did pulpwood on our farm back then, and I remember "helping" unload the truck to the pulpwood car at Amherst, and Gladstone. Monroe also had a place, as did many other depots. Bill Cox ACIPCO was a very large employer in the Anniston/Oxford, Ala. area when I was growing up ther in the 60's. Warren D 07/25/01 North Carolina additions Agriculture: include trees and forest products, cotton, produce (not #1, but they do produce apples, peaches, and various other fruits and vegetables). Industries: Furniture and other wood products; sand/gravel/clay; pottery; and lots of granite and brownstone. Dave Bott© S.A. McCall